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Daydream · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 656

In light of current news of a directive handed down from the FFA that all active support areas be allocated seating for Season 4, what are everyones thoughts?

On another note, is there any official release of info from the FFA? I would like to see their EXACT wording, sometimes things get lost in translation, I find it's less than ideal to receive such news via another conveyor.

Watt · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 36

Lo DD

There is no statement, they were going to wait until membership packages are out.

Less then ideal perhaps but do you think ITA should have sat on the news and say nothing?

GweedsOSS · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 499 Location: Northcote

Good thread Daydream, I was thinking of about it too, especially amongst us 'OSSers'

There are two issues that I would like raise here.

Implication of us

While the idea of a 'dedicated' OSS area have been unable to be implemented for a variety of reasons, the fluidity of where to stand for us became an advantage, rather than an hindrance. Daydream ability to visit me and CLM/MVMP group on the south and go somewhere else afterwards was an example. The same with Rollins switching between the south and north etc.

The issue here is what we can do as OSS. I don't know whether a seat will be assigned by the club according to when the membership will be processed, or whether we may have any say so we can at least stay together if we want to do so.

The other question is whether we are going to a 'home end' membership or not. Or whether we can request at least to be located in any other GA area.

This follows on another related point.

Circumventing the system

I think that as OSSers we may put some thought on how we can, if we can, circumvent the system.

The fact is that if a group of people agree to do so the system can be broken down. So for instance, if there is a 'home membership' a number of people in there can agree to disregard the assigned seat and move around that area as they wish.

This will of course depend on how strictly the system will be enforced, and how many members who haven't been part of the home end will elect to do so and expect to sit down and not have anyone standing around them.

But these are considerations that have to be taken later. I would think that the best option at this stage is to get a 'home end' membership and if the other bigger groups get an agreement is to move as we wish in that area once in the ground. This will be getting ownership back in an area of the ground and refuse to be dictated by the FFA.

Of course it is difficult to see how it pans out. As the Club wasn't that keen on the idea anyway and it was forced by the FFA it may be the case that it will let lie and we will return to the same situation as before. And this may show to the FFA the stupidity and futility of their decision.
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TechnicalArea · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:

Even outside the context of the HEM, I just hate the whole idea of reserved seating. It just feels so pointlessly restrictive. I also feel that it is very isolating and individualising. People just have this sense of entitlement to a particular seat which in the end becomes uncompromising and anti social compared to the "work around each other" way of general admission. I can't see any benefits for supporters coming out of this plan. The OSS will really struggle I think if this comes in as it becomes difficult for all the members of a family to commit to a whole season, especially in the one "seat". It will make it very impracticable if not impossible for the young OSSers to bring their friends into these areas and so they will be forced into a different section of the ground. As I said, totally isolating and ignorant of the social side of attending football.

As for the lack of detail, well I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you..... Wink

Well, a few prominent people from the NT have been told about the proposed plans by the club. As has been said before elsewhere, the general fundamentals of the plan has been decided (reserved seating) but the details are still being worked out. I don't think the full details will come out until the memberships go on sale (which have been delayed because the clubs now have to reorganise their membership packages to factor in this new plan on short notice).

GweedsOSS · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 499 Location: Northcote

CLMV · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 647

I am with everyone else in preferring the fluidity of being able to move around. I don't like the proposal. I hope it gets changed or at least softened.

If it happens:

I do think there could be some room to move (literally) within the area, if we as members decide to be relaxed about the seats in our home area.

I think it will be easier to form our views as we get more detail on the proposals.

I favour getting an active member ticket, if that is the way it goes, rather than giving up on active support.

I think perhaps the south end might benefit from being a bit more organised if this goes ahead.

Rollins · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 445

Would not be good for OSS which is a very loose social group, so much so it's barely a group at all.
Personally won't be purchasing an allocated seat for the following season, will wait & see.

CLMV · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 647

rowdy has asked me to put forward my ideas about the HEM proposal

and also invited 'OSS' input

I don't know if we can come to a shared position - and I don't think we have to - but this is the first time we have been invited to contribute in this way

so I think we should take it

I will try over the next day or so to write down my thoughts, and include what others are saying here

if you can add any more to this thread, it would be helpful

I think it would be best not to limit it to why we don't like the proposal, but also to look at what the reaction should be if the proposal goes ahead, and what if any modifications would make the proposal more congenial to us

CLMV · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 647

one factor to bear in mind, is that I believe that some form of home end ticket or controlled access will eventually be needed, because we will grow to fill the space available

especially in the new stadium

GweedsOSS · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 499 Location: Northcote

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AND would it be worth bumping the OSS thread on the darkside to include the opinions of other families who may want to have input on this topic?

Couldn't hurt, but I wont bump until I've heard from a few of you. Actually maybe I shouldn't bump at all.

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This post has been left intentionally blank...... Embarassed

Sorry, I'm having trouble with deleting/editing posts.......every time I try to edit a post it posts a new post.....

GweedsOSS · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 499 Location: Northcote

I am always happy to meet OSSers because we are such a happy bunch! I am always wary about our organisational abilities! Icon_cheek

Regarding the proposed changes to the HEM there was an intersting email from Magpie on the Dark Side:

I contacted Geoff Miles today. He said both casual day passes and crews / groups being able to organise bulk purchase of seats (so you can sit with your group) are more than likely going to be implemented but it is still in discussion.

If both of those problems are solved then I believe everything will be fine and everyone can go back to focusing their energies on supporting the team.

If that's the case we have to decide if we want to purchase a 'bulk OSS' purchase.
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Philly09 · Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 115

GweedsOSS · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 499 Location: Northcote

I wouldn't bump our 'OSS is a new crew' thread because that's done and dusted.

However dechardonay started a great thread on the Dark Side about where to stand if you had a family, that would be a good one to bump. Pity though there is no searching facility anymore and it would be a bugger to find.

(BTW I have never seen so many people on this forum at the same time. I hope the server can cope Wink

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Daydream · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 656

So Philly, Gweeds? Are you availbale in the near future, on any of the days that I mentioned? We could always meet for an hour or so in a park, if we didn't want to make things too hard to organise?

Philly09 · Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 115

Philly09 · Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 115